White Pass & Yukon Route railway – Rotary Snow Plow at Work #3
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January 4th, 2012 at 7:02 am
That’s funny, baldeagle – what does a steam locomotive have to do with “today’s technology”??? It’s tough to make “railfans” and “treehuggers” work in the same sentence.
January 4th, 2012 at 7:27 am
With todays technology why all that crap into the atmosphere ?
January 4th, 2012 at 8:10 am
Hi the snow blower is self propelled but just for manoveriing purposes if the snow is hard packed it would take two engines to push this oil fired beast through the deeper drifts.I lived in beamish in county durham right next to the consett/tyne dock line and watched the 9fs pounding up the line to consett with iron orr an unforgetable sight and sound
January 4th, 2012 at 8:48 am
Sigh. Makes me wish that I had been born when they still used steam engines. My father grew up while they still were common sights, and he’s described how amazing and powerful they were to watch, like a giant black beast pounding over the ground. Well, that’s how he described them, anyway! I rode in a steam train once when I was very young, but I hardly remember it. Diesels are impressive it their own way, but nothing like the power of a steam locomotive.
January 4th, 2012 at 9:37 am
@sentineldg8 The blower is self propelled? I never knew that. I always assumed they were just engines mounted on cars. Maybe they could move from place to place, but they needed all their steam to power the blade, so they used a locomotive to push while it was working. I wonder, considering how lightly they are working, whether having two locomotives is more for traction than for brute power?
January 4th, 2012 at 10:29 am
@southparkline1 Thanks, that makes sense. Seems obvious now that you said so! So, the plow is working hard and burning a hot fire to make steam, and the draft is so great that it’s pulling a lot of smoke and cinders through. Like a diesel under WOT, it blows a lot of soot and unburned fuel out as black smoke? The white “smoke” is mostly vapor, and steam from the blastpipe? I grew up burning coal, and when it was cold, steam came from the chimney. The smoke itself was hard to see.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:37 am
@VolvoSwed I bet that a steam train burning wood or even coal is better for the environment than a diesel, even if the smoke is much easier to see. Just a guess, I don’t know that for a fact, and it would depend on which pollutants you were worried about. I think wood smoke is worse as far as respiratory health, but I don’t think it makes as much CO2 as coal or diesel. Of course, steam trains can be pretty inefficient, depending on how they’re being worked.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:54 am
@noooreally You have train tracks in your driveway? Pretty cool! =)
January 4th, 2012 at 11:53 am
@NonSilentKiller Yeah, actually I know quite a bit about steam engines. I was asking why if they are both steam engines, they have different colored smoke. Seems like a reasonable question to me. And apparently is was answered by a few people who actually try to be helpful. The plow is working hard to cut through the snow, while the trains are just idling along. Simple answer to a simple question. But thanks for informing me that steam engines burn coal or wood, very helpful.
January 4th, 2012 at 12:47 pm
@justforever96 for the answer to “why is the smoke so dark”, do you have any idea what a steam engine is? they burn coal or wood to make the steam.
January 4th, 2012 at 1:37 pm
@justforever96 If the blade is working harder it is black, if it is not working as hard the steam is white.
January 4th, 2012 at 1:51 pm
use a less rich fuel mixture next time.
January 4th, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Awesome! What a sight.
January 4th, 2012 at 2:54 pm
That’s clag
January 4th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
@explorenorth the plow train is probably a diesel engine the pushers are most likely steam powered.
January 4th, 2012 at 3:52 pm
Dont get in front of this.
January 4th, 2012 at 3:58 pm
The 2 locomotives are pushing the plow, which is not self-propelled, and it may be easier for the 2 of them to keep a light fire. It could be argued that the fireman of the plow is using too much oil, but only he knows how much he needs for the work being done and what lies ahead. The boiler and engine inside the plow only power the rotary snow blower.
Thanks for posting the video, I could watch these things all day long.
January 4th, 2012 at 4:54 pm
Sure looks to me that all of the locomotives are oil fired. The fuel is carried in the front part of the tender and it appears to be a flat steel top indicating an oil tank. The water is carried in the rear part of the tender. The reason that the snowplow’s smoke is darker is because the fireman has increased the amount of oil to the burner to gain back the steam that the plow will be using as it works harder into the deeper snow.
January 4th, 2012 at 5:53 pm
The WP&Y rotary is coal fired steam, just like the locomotives. The darker stack exhaust is because it is pulling a lot of cinders out of the firebox as it works harder to cut through that drift. The steam exhaust goes up the stack just like on the locomotives to increase the draft on the fire and make it burn hotter.
January 4th, 2012 at 6:36 pm
I must have watched this clip about 20 times now i also tell my friend to watch it its absolutley FANTASTIC well done explorenorth (ps cant beleive someone said it was diesel powerd)
January 4th, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Incretible
January 4th, 2012 at 8:20 pm
the snow blower is steam driven and is self propelled it just needs assistance in realy deep snow fantastic vid many thanks
January 4th, 2012 at 9:10 pm
it has a coal car attached so must be steam
January 4th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
The smoke difference is because the Rotary Blower is diesel powered and running about a 2000-2500HP engine judging by the smaller size of it compared to another one i have seen on here. The locos are running on steam.
January 4th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
@explorenorth it because the plow is working hard cleaning the snow off the tracks